I’m pretty sure the chart is an attempt to make a very hierarchical top-down organisational structure try to appear like it is collaborative by putting everything in circles in a jumbly mess. (Instead of, you know, actually changing the leadership structure).
Ye couldn’a make this shit up 😅 do you ever suspect they might have meetings to decide what absolute nonsense they can come up with, just to give you another update to write about David? They really are a never-ending supply of poor choices and embarrassing behaviours, it seems almost on purpose
😅 classic. This legit sounds like an episode of Mega, a comedy podcast about a fictional megachurch by improv comics and former churchies Holly Laurent and Greg Hess.
I highly recommend - it’s vibe is “religious trauma but funny as fuck”
May 12, 2023·edited May 12, 2023Liked by David Farrier
The problem is very basic, and lies at the core of some aspects of this particular religion:
In 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, Paul wrote: “As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church”.
Now, as with practically everything in the Bible, Paul's commandment is contradicted elsewhere.
But that's the beauty of this religion; like bulk-buy bins, you can pick and choose what to accept, what to reject, what to interpret any which way suits you (and your revenue stream).
If Arise chooses to follow Paul's commandment (which was written nearly 2,000 years before Suffragettes had something to say on this
matter) then their sexism not only makes "sense", but is mandatory.
It's also convenient for male chauvinists to maintain their supernaturally-mandated privilege. Never mind that all this was written two millenia ago. Whilst Arise leaders have adapted to modern ways by driving a Lexus instead of a donkey, they sure as heck haven't shown a willingness to treat women as 21st century equals.
That Governance and Leadership Roles diagram is a give-away; I've seen the likes of it many times. It's a typical symptom of the mutual-moneygrubbing networks that are the megachurches' raison d'etre: give a push to our boosterism train and we'll let you charge us for something, however incompetent you may be. Bill us for professional services and never mind the cost; every Sunday we hype up a congregation of willing donors who'll stump for it. (That said, try to do a little better next time, because we're at risk of being found out. If we have to duck for cover it'll take time to restart this gig somewhere else. Time is money, our god.)
May 12, 2023·edited May 12, 2023Liked by David Farrier
I thought they might sell their Church for the homeless, it's very scriptural to give back to the community and Arise surely must be pious, I'm sure it would be no trouble for them to do such a thing. Perhaps I should put in a solemn request to them, or maybe just a quiet one to My God? Said with sincerity.
May 13, 2023·edited May 13, 2023Liked by David Farrier
I have a theory that this chart was created in the same way a birthday card is circulated around an office and everyone is required to sign it.... where by the time it gets to the last people there is nothing left to say and nowhere to write.
They were tired of mansplaining to those women on the board, so they solved that by eliminating them.
In the diagram do arrows represent the flow of money?
I’m pretty sure the chart is an attempt to make a very hierarchical top-down organisational structure try to appear like it is collaborative by putting everything in circles in a jumbly mess. (Instead of, you know, actually changing the leadership structure).
Pretty sure that chart is one of those dance move charts from the 50s. "It's just a jump to the left.."
Congratulations to Arise for closing the Gender Pay Gap on their Board. Visionary.
Lol wtf is that chart 😂
God doesn't seem to be in the diagram!
Ye couldn’a make this shit up 😅 do you ever suspect they might have meetings to decide what absolute nonsense they can come up with, just to give you another update to write about David? They really are a never-ending supply of poor choices and embarrassing behaviours, it seems almost on purpose
😅 classic. This legit sounds like an episode of Mega, a comedy podcast about a fictional megachurch by improv comics and former churchies Holly Laurent and Greg Hess.
I highly recommend - it’s vibe is “religious trauma but funny as fuck”
Farts & Prayers --> Interns
Honestly, their new diagram looks more like a woman’s reproductive system than the MCU, so at least they’re trying…
The problem is very basic, and lies at the core of some aspects of this particular religion:
In 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, Paul wrote: “As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church”.
Now, as with practically everything in the Bible, Paul's commandment is contradicted elsewhere.
But that's the beauty of this religion; like bulk-buy bins, you can pick and choose what to accept, what to reject, what to interpret any which way suits you (and your revenue stream).
If Arise chooses to follow Paul's commandment (which was written nearly 2,000 years before Suffragettes had something to say on this
matter) then their sexism not only makes "sense", but is mandatory.
It's also convenient for male chauvinists to maintain their supernaturally-mandated privilege. Never mind that all this was written two millenia ago. Whilst Arise leaders have adapted to modern ways by driving a Lexus instead of a donkey, they sure as heck haven't shown a willingness to treat women as 21st century equals.
That Governance and Leadership Roles diagram is a give-away; I've seen the likes of it many times. It's a typical symptom of the mutual-moneygrubbing networks that are the megachurches' raison d'etre: give a push to our boosterism train and we'll let you charge us for something, however incompetent you may be. Bill us for professional services and never mind the cost; every Sunday we hype up a congregation of willing donors who'll stump for it. (That said, try to do a little better next time, because we're at risk of being found out. If we have to duck for cover it'll take time to restart this gig somewhere else. Time is money, our god.)
I thought they might sell their Church for the homeless, it's very scriptural to give back to the community and Arise surely must be pious, I'm sure it would be no trouble for them to do such a thing. Perhaps I should put in a solemn request to them, or maybe just a quiet one to My God? Said with sincerity.
I have a theory that this chart was created in the same way a birthday card is circulated around an office and everyone is required to sign it.... where by the time it gets to the last people there is nothing left to say and nowhere to write.
In the case of this chart...add another arrow.
Would love to know what word is in the middle of that “Senior Pastor” and “General Manager” venn. I’m thinking .... predator?