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Bianca's avatar

I was stoked seeing several publications crediting David and linking to Webworm. About time! But I agree and hope it’s not just to cover their backs.

Anyway, thanks again David. Yesterday was a great day!!!

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Chris O's avatar

YES. Plus I have a new recommendation #93: If you can ARISE from this mess, consider re-branding yourself as the PHOENIX church. ….Maybe god has a sense of humour after all.

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Chris O's avatar

Wow. TVNZ are running the story tonight. I think this cat is well and truly out of the bag. David seems to be getting a lot of credit ( or are they just trying to hide behind him??) wait for the resignations now.

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David Farrier's avatar

It's nice that Webworm is getting a few shoutouts now, and the reporting reflects all the context.

And other outlets are progressing the story on which is great! https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/129610943/charity-services-opens-inquiry-after-damning-arise-church-allegations

Also all those Google results for Arise are a warning to those who are thinking of signing up - which is a very good thing.

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Chris O's avatar

Also am wondering if this means they could lose their charity status, meaning income would be taxable… going back years?. That would hurt!

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Plague Craig's avatar

Thanks for laying it all out. I look forward to seeing an infographic of exactly this in the weekend paper not crediting David.

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David Farrier's avatar

:)

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Grahame gee's avatar

And now the Charity Services are looking into the status of Arise (Note the well deserved credit given to David):

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/129610943/charity-services-opens-inquiry-after-damning-arise-church-allegations

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David Farrier's avatar

Another report they will have to deal with! Yippee!

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Renee's avatar

Hey David looks like the church has produced a roadmap on the pathfinding report and its outcomes. They have already missed the deadline on a number of tasks and dates (I know shocking). Reading through it it looks like alot of waffle. The church's page online still has Pastor John at front and centre with his wife. Really is bit of a joke how things have gone. They are saying they will appoint a new board in April 2023 when the current boards term ends. Ofcourse they could just resign now but that would mean actual accountability.

https://www.arisechurch.com/review-roadmap

On the subject of churches it looks like City Impact Church Pastors Peter Mortlock and wife Bev have moved into being "founding pastors" instead of Lead Pastors since July 2022. Now lead pastors are Joe and Racquel Manase.

https://cityimpactchurch.com/lead-pastors/

The church also has courses and mentions marriage and parenting. Hopefully this is more progressive then the anti queer messages that has come out from Pastor Peter. The concerning part in the outline of the courses is that it mentions that PS Clare "she addresses some of the lies in culture that tell us how to parent and presents what the Bible says our roles as parents are". Hopefully a better church than what has been before.

https://cityimpactchurch.com/courses/

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Shannon M McManus's avatar

Great work, David!

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Grahame gee's avatar

Buckett Law has produced an interesting article on the Arise Church from an employment law perspective. Part of the motivation for these is to find new clients, but even taking this into account, it does highlight some of the legal risks that Arise Church is exposed to.

https://buckettlaw.co.nz/article/arise-church-report-shines-light-on-numerous-employment-relations-issues

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