I am heartened that David and Byron are exposing this very tiny and extreme group with rather different views, and am more than a little shocked at their 'different' interpretation of reality. Seems like it's a common fault of all of these people to also misunderstand the meaning of many of the words they use such as Communism and Socialism. I think what they mean is totalitarianism or dictatorship - the funny thing is, they don't seem to recognise that these political situations are most often promulgated by conservative governments and groups like themselves! To give them some credit though, they have worked out the ways to use the internet to make them look much bigger than they really are.
Elliot Ikilei used to plonk anti-abortion placards around my old suburb, and last year he creeped me out by regularly parking a van with his face on it near my local dairy - presumably as he was campaigning for New Cons. Between that and sharing an ante-natal group with Dieuwe De Boer, I've had my fill of NZs gross gaslighting racist men. Bravo Byron for investigating this clan without losing your mind (or your lunch!).
"This is just wrong, regardless of whatever science Ms Pennycook is putting up on her website." Yup, the nutters and con theorists outing themselves in one sentence. Talk about a convincing argument, NOT! Even dressed up in flash and pretty production, this is nothing more than an attempt to gain followers by 'sounding' smart, when all they are doing is touting an agenda that supports their own unfettered access to power and the right to discriminate against anyone they want to. It upsets and saddens me that so many people who are at risk from this BS are actually supporting this BS. Thank you David, and Byron, for this incredibly comprehensively researched article. Reading this semblance of sanity helps with my own (sanity).
Interesting story. It's good to see all the connections laid out. No surprise to see it all connecting back to Bannon. He gives me the heebies big time. Nothing knew in their choice of bogeymen, (communism welfare etc) to instill the fear though, just new platforms to spread it from. Got to give them credit for being well ahead of the game on that. The misinformation networks and means are bloody complicated and scarily clever. Shiver.
I am heartened that David and Byron are exposing this very tiny and extreme group with rather different views, and am more than a little shocked at their 'different' interpretation of reality. Seems like it's a common fault of all of these people to also misunderstand the meaning of many of the words they use such as Communism and Socialism. I think what they mean is totalitarianism or dictatorship - the funny thing is, they don't seem to recognise that these political situations are most often promulgated by conservative governments and groups like themselves! To give them some credit though, they have worked out the ways to use the internet to make them look much bigger than they really are.
Ugh, I feel like I need a shower...
Elliot Ikilei used to plonk anti-abortion placards around my old suburb, and last year he creeped me out by regularly parking a van with his face on it near my local dairy - presumably as he was campaigning for New Cons. Between that and sharing an ante-natal group with Dieuwe De Boer, I've had my fill of NZs gross gaslighting racist men. Bravo Byron for investigating this clan without losing your mind (or your lunch!).
"This is just wrong, regardless of whatever science Ms Pennycook is putting up on her website." Yup, the nutters and con theorists outing themselves in one sentence. Talk about a convincing argument, NOT! Even dressed up in flash and pretty production, this is nothing more than an attempt to gain followers by 'sounding' smart, when all they are doing is touting an agenda that supports their own unfettered access to power and the right to discriminate against anyone they want to. It upsets and saddens me that so many people who are at risk from this BS are actually supporting this BS. Thank you David, and Byron, for this incredibly comprehensively researched article. Reading this semblance of sanity helps with my own (sanity).
Interesting story. It's good to see all the connections laid out. No surprise to see it all connecting back to Bannon. He gives me the heebies big time. Nothing knew in their choice of bogeymen, (communism welfare etc) to instill the fear though, just new platforms to spread it from. Got to give them credit for being well ahead of the game on that. The misinformation networks and means are bloody complicated and scarily clever. Shiver.
All those flags make me think the set is designed by Albert Speer
Oh yay, you and Tig together sort of at last!
The show on virtue signalling wasn't scheduled for ANZAC day.