I carry around a little notebook which I’ll write words in and then anagram them. It kind of helps me calm down when I’m stressed. What I’m trying to say is:
Perfect anagrams for “David’s feet”“Festive Dad”, “Fated Dives”, “TV dies deaf!”.
That thread was brilliant, I was hooked. So disappointed your foot guy was a fraudster. I wanted you to get paid. To see the perspective a sex worker on this was brilliant. I admire them so much and I'm grateful they shared their story with us.
Thanks Sarah - yeah, Ellie rules. She commented out of the blue, I DMd, sent some questions and she came back with the most thoughtful stuff. It's my ideal thing here - starting somewhere comical and then things take a turn into something more thoughtful.
I love how you go at this from more than one angle and turned it into a learning experience not just for you but for us too. Thank you for the interview with Ellie.
I was really happy how this one turned out. I was going to write it just as a comical piece, but Ellie just added this whole other level. I like it when I learn along the way with this stuff, too. What life is all about.
A lot of this and some very minor personal experiences I've had online bring up big red flags around issues of consent for me. I find it worrying that often the lack of consent or the tricking seems to be a big part of the appeal for people. This must be frustrating for people who are in the kink scene. I'm aware many are doing things , including playing with power dynamics - which is surely the appeal of the tricking stuff, ethically, safely, and with a lot of communication around boundaries and checking in. Consent is everything.
You are so right: I think part of the thrill here is the dishonesty of it; the chase. It's not a clear transaction - it's all about the conversation and getting what they want. Fucking horrible, actually.
This article raises lots of really interesting anomalies for me ..... love that something this harmless can still be fetished, but very very interesting how very easily and within the tweak of a millimetre it can all go so wrong and that it can suddenly feel like an invasion and harmful. Thanks for the process on how to get things removed from wiki-anything. I have had my name bandied about by a couple of people on some nasty sites some years ago, due to my work, and had no recourse. Even got stalked and threatened. It left me feeling really scared for a long time. I am now hyper nervous of the power of the WWW - and in awe of it as well. PS: I love the Kindness Collectiveness - go YOU!!
Yeah, Sarah does such good stuff over at KC. God's work, if there was a god etc. There is nothing worse than having your identity of content spread without your consent. Horrible. Sorry you had to experience that.
So David. Us loyal readers and subscribers want to know... Where are our feet pics??? I think we all feel a bit betrayed that you offered them to @intimatestuff before -us-.
Wow - I love how you can accidently fall down the rabbit hole so innocently, make me laugh, educate me and still raise some disturbing questions. Images are scary! Once published they are there for anyone to take. In your case your toes are sexualized before your were aware and then you were led further into this by agreeing to take pictures for money and then you didn't get paid. In short - someone groomed you for exploitation.
This is really great stuff! I wasn’t expecting this to take a serious turn, but I’m very glad you took it there. You brought a lot of nuance to something that very easily could have been just a silly anecdote. Thank you for donating some money regardless, and big thanks to Ellie for being so willing to partake and share her wisdom!
My Women & Health class starts on Monday, this has already got me in the right headspace!
When I was a student at vic uni in 2010 there was a ‘job’ on student job search, sending body part pics for an ‘artist’ to ‘study’. I really needed money, so I took the job. I received an email from them once approved by SJS. The job poster wanted pics of hands and feet, and was very specific about the positions of things, which I naively thought was ok because if they’re wanting to make specific art they need the hands and feet to be positioned in a certain way, right? sent about 10 photos or so, and was thanked and told I would be paid. The next day I received an email from SJS advising any of us students who had been in contact with this person to stop immediately as they’d retroactively realised it might not be for the purely artistic purposes mentioned in the ad. I was emotional and very stressed out. I had googled the artist and their ‘website’ was pretty strange but, as I mentioned, I was a poor student, and this seemed a lot easier than my other SJS job, cleaning a 3 story house for $15/hr cash in hand, 3hr/week. Guess I learned that week that if it sounds too good to be true, it is. I probably still have these emails in my inbox somewhere. I never heard anything else from the person who posted the job, or from SJS about the result of any further investigation. I just hoped nobody would see any of the pics I had already sent to them, as some of them did have my gullible face. :(
I carry around a little notebook which I’ll write words in and then anagram them. It kind of helps me calm down when I’m stressed. What I’m trying to say is:
Perfect anagrams for “David’s feet”“Festive Dad”, “Fated Dives”, “TV dies deaf!”.
What a fascinating way to relieve stress.
Oddly, sudoku stress me out immensely!
This is a really great technique. I might start my own lil' book, starting with your entries
That thread was brilliant, I was hooked. So disappointed your foot guy was a fraudster. I wanted you to get paid. To see the perspective a sex worker on this was brilliant. I admire them so much and I'm grateful they shared their story with us.
Thanks Sarah - yeah, Ellie rules. She commented out of the blue, I DMd, sent some questions and she came back with the most thoughtful stuff. It's my ideal thing here - starting somewhere comical and then things take a turn into something more thoughtful.
"I feel like I’ve been slapped in the face by a million toes."
Has a more perfect sentence ever been written?
Imagine that feeling! It would be quite something.
I love how you go at this from more than one angle and turned it into a learning experience not just for you but for us too. Thank you for the interview with Ellie.
I was really happy how this one turned out. I was going to write it just as a comical piece, but Ellie just added this whole other level. I like it when I learn along the way with this stuff, too. What life is all about.
A lot of this and some very minor personal experiences I've had online bring up big red flags around issues of consent for me. I find it worrying that often the lack of consent or the tricking seems to be a big part of the appeal for people. This must be frustrating for people who are in the kink scene. I'm aware many are doing things , including playing with power dynamics - which is surely the appeal of the tricking stuff, ethically, safely, and with a lot of communication around boundaries and checking in. Consent is everything.
You are so right: I think part of the thrill here is the dishonesty of it; the chase. It's not a clear transaction - it's all about the conversation and getting what they want. Fucking horrible, actually.
This article raises lots of really interesting anomalies for me ..... love that something this harmless can still be fetished, but very very interesting how very easily and within the tweak of a millimetre it can all go so wrong and that it can suddenly feel like an invasion and harmful. Thanks for the process on how to get things removed from wiki-anything. I have had my name bandied about by a couple of people on some nasty sites some years ago, due to my work, and had no recourse. Even got stalked and threatened. It left me feeling really scared for a long time. I am now hyper nervous of the power of the WWW - and in awe of it as well. PS: I love the Kindness Collectiveness - go YOU!!
Yeah, Sarah does such good stuff over at KC. God's work, if there was a god etc. There is nothing worse than having your identity of content spread without your consent. Horrible. Sorry you had to experience that.
This is one of those things where it's kinda funny until all of a sudden it's not. Eugh.
Totally. The dream Webworm turn - fun to slightly less fun!
So David. Us loyal readers and subscribers want to know... Where are our feet pics??? I think we all feel a bit betrayed that you offered them to @intimatestuff before -us-.
Ha! They're in the wikifeet post at the end. That is as high res as you will get from me!
Wow - I love how you can accidently fall down the rabbit hole so innocently, make me laugh, educate me and still raise some disturbing questions. Images are scary! Once published they are there for anyone to take. In your case your toes are sexualized before your were aware and then you were led further into this by agreeing to take pictures for money and then you didn't get paid. In short - someone groomed you for exploitation.
Thanks Helena - I kinda wanted to take you on the ride with me. Thanks for joining. The internet constantly delights and horrifies...
what weird times we live in (him, not you) - can't blame covid though :)
what weird times we live in (him, not you) - can't blame covid though :)
Top notch lols and thought provoking stuff
Cheers, Chris.
This is really great stuff! I wasn’t expecting this to take a serious turn, but I’m very glad you took it there. You brought a lot of nuance to something that very easily could have been just a silly anecdote. Thank you for donating some money regardless, and big thanks to Ellie for being so willing to partake and share her wisdom!
My Women & Health class starts on Monday, this has already got me in the right headspace!
When I was a student at vic uni in 2010 there was a ‘job’ on student job search, sending body part pics for an ‘artist’ to ‘study’. I really needed money, so I took the job. I received an email from them once approved by SJS. The job poster wanted pics of hands and feet, and was very specific about the positions of things, which I naively thought was ok because if they’re wanting to make specific art they need the hands and feet to be positioned in a certain way, right? sent about 10 photos or so, and was thanked and told I would be paid. The next day I received an email from SJS advising any of us students who had been in contact with this person to stop immediately as they’d retroactively realised it might not be for the purely artistic purposes mentioned in the ad. I was emotional and very stressed out. I had googled the artist and their ‘website’ was pretty strange but, as I mentioned, I was a poor student, and this seemed a lot easier than my other SJS job, cleaning a 3 story house for $15/hr cash in hand, 3hr/week. Guess I learned that week that if it sounds too good to be true, it is. I probably still have these emails in my inbox somewhere. I never heard anything else from the person who posted the job, or from SJS about the result of any further investigation. I just hoped nobody would see any of the pics I had already sent to them, as some of them did have my gullible face. :(