“If you don’t have faith that God can heal me over your stupid ventilator then keep the Hell out of my ICU room, there’s no room in here for fear or lack of faith.”
Why did he go to the hospital in the first place? Shouldn't his 'faith' have kept him out? Maddening how these nutjobs use yet deny science.
Urgh. It is everywhere. The anti-vaxxers called for NHS staff to be hung in London yesterday, just like doctors and nurses who worked for the Nazis. As a former nurse I wanted to smack that woman into next week, so I think it is fine to challenge them. However, if a young man dying of covid isn't enough to make them rethink and encourage vaccination, what will? Sadder still that the man lost his life listening to someone who really doesn't give a damn about him.
I hear these conspiracies about a secret organisation that’s infiltrated our governments and is secretly controlling the decisions made and I’m thinking here in Australia, it’s no secret. They’re called Hillsong. The prime minister is a proud member.
I remember a Hillsong worship leader coming to the Invercargill town hall in the 90s. I was an impressionable evangelical teenager. Afterwards my Dad said, "that's not worship it's entertainment" I didn't get it at the time but he was right, there is nothing truely spiritual or connected about Hillsong. It's all just brand marketing. I don't do the Christian thing anymore but I like to morbidly watch the antics of the capitalist prosperity doctrinites. They do exactly what Jesus hated. He would turn their money tables upsidedown for sure. Not really to do with covid, more just a Hillsong rant.
The strange pattern finding ways of the brain: I scanned the first paragraph and somehow saw that the church/cult worshipped Justin Beiber and Chris Pratt. Well, "Justin" has a couple of the same letters as "Jesus", and "Chris" is just one off "Christ" - coincidence? - I THINK NOT.
I don’t know whether or not to feel sorry for Harmon since it was his own ignorance that led to his demise. On one hand it’s horrible that he lost his life, but on the other, it was his choice to not get vaccinated and continue to listen to harmful lies. I guess the real evil here is the rhetoric spread by these cult-like weirdos.
Interesting to hear that all the Hillsong company senior executives are vaccinated! I guess thats to be expected of an organisation like this, its ok for the management but the customers need to be given the antivaxx message!
Thinking about this church vs anti vacc stuff. You probably know the story of "When God sends a Helicopter" (search for it). Isn't it just as reasonable (for those that believe in deities) that a devil sent covid into the world to cause suffering, and a god has sent health workers, scientists and through them, vaccines, to help? Come to think of it, maybe this is the opinion of the majority, and it is a vocal minority out on the streets?
I had 3 people on my Facebook feed claim lockdown restrictions were now preventing them from worship, suddenly all questioning the “real motives”, enter covid is fake, the devil is real comments. One then attended the anti-lockdown/vax rally. Fuck me it’s tiring. First thing they’ve ever protested against in their life, aside from a brief period of #savethechildren on social media 🙄 surprise surprise.
Gosh I love your writing David. I was baptised and brought up Irish Catholic in South Dunedin. I eventually got an education. We moved down to invercargill when my baby was 3 months. I enrolled my boy at a Catholic primary school even though I am an atheist because I wanted to protect him from evangelism and fundamentalist Christianity. It worked !
I think Brian probably felt this message was a big brave step in the right direction, and would argue advocating as you propose would have been too much a change for anyone to follow him. And he may have been right, but he's the one who dug himself into this hole.
“If you don’t have faith that God can heal me over your stupid ventilator then keep the Hell out of my ICU room, there’s no room in here for fear or lack of faith.”
Why did he go to the hospital in the first place? Shouldn't his 'faith' have kept him out? Maddening how these nutjobs use yet deny science.
We spare a thought for Anna Wilding who isn't even mentioned in this article. Erased and ignored by her own stalker.
Urgh. It is everywhere. The anti-vaxxers called for NHS staff to be hung in London yesterday, just like doctors and nurses who worked for the Nazis. As a former nurse I wanted to smack that woman into next week, so I think it is fine to challenge them. However, if a young man dying of covid isn't enough to make them rethink and encourage vaccination, what will? Sadder still that the man lost his life listening to someone who really doesn't give a damn about him.
I hear these conspiracies about a secret organisation that’s infiltrated our governments and is secretly controlling the decisions made and I’m thinking here in Australia, it’s no secret. They’re called Hillsong. The prime minister is a proud member.
And don’t forget. Old Scotty from marketing (ScoMo) is a member of this very cult.
We’re doomed.
Fucken hell (I hope they do).
I remember a Hillsong worship leader coming to the Invercargill town hall in the 90s. I was an impressionable evangelical teenager. Afterwards my Dad said, "that's not worship it's entertainment" I didn't get it at the time but he was right, there is nothing truely spiritual or connected about Hillsong. It's all just brand marketing. I don't do the Christian thing anymore but I like to morbidly watch the antics of the capitalist prosperity doctrinites. They do exactly what Jesus hated. He would turn their money tables upsidedown for sure. Not really to do with covid, more just a Hillsong rant.
The strange pattern finding ways of the brain: I scanned the first paragraph and somehow saw that the church/cult worshipped Justin Beiber and Chris Pratt. Well, "Justin" has a couple of the same letters as "Jesus", and "Chris" is just one off "Christ" - coincidence? - I THINK NOT.
The Church of Justin Chris?
I don’t know whether or not to feel sorry for Harmon since it was his own ignorance that led to his demise. On one hand it’s horrible that he lost his life, but on the other, it was his choice to not get vaccinated and continue to listen to harmful lies. I guess the real evil here is the rhetoric spread by these cult-like weirdos.
OK, so here's a thing - one of the members of the Hillsong tribe is Scott Morrison. Scomo to some, Scummo to many. Says it all, really.....
Interesting to hear that all the Hillsong company senior executives are vaccinated! I guess thats to be expected of an organisation like this, its ok for the management but the customers need to be given the antivaxx message!
Oh come on, Houston is a businessman. His nod to ethical concerns or objective reality is no more genuine than Coca-Cola supporting indigenous rights.
Having members die, and getting pious about it, is central to the business model.
Thinking about this church vs anti vacc stuff. You probably know the story of "When God sends a Helicopter" (search for it). Isn't it just as reasonable (for those that believe in deities) that a devil sent covid into the world to cause suffering, and a god has sent health workers, scientists and through them, vaccines, to help? Come to think of it, maybe this is the opinion of the majority, and it is a vocal minority out on the streets?
It appears that some people can find support in the bible for vaccination e.g. https://www.beliefnet.com/wellness/would-god-support-vaccines.aspx
News item the other night about the South Auckland church as vaccination centre gave me some hope.
I had 3 people on my Facebook feed claim lockdown restrictions were now preventing them from worship, suddenly all questioning the “real motives”, enter covid is fake, the devil is real comments. One then attended the anti-lockdown/vax rally. Fuck me it’s tiring. First thing they’ve ever protested against in their life, aside from a brief period of #savethechildren on social media 🙄 surprise surprise.
Gosh I love your writing David. I was baptised and brought up Irish Catholic in South Dunedin. I eventually got an education. We moved down to invercargill when my baby was 3 months. I enrolled my boy at a Catholic primary school even though I am an atheist because I wanted to protect him from evangelism and fundamentalist Christianity. It worked !
I think Brian probably felt this message was a big brave step in the right direction, and would argue advocating as you propose would have been too much a change for anyone to follow him. And he may have been right, but he's the one who dug himself into this hole.
Cripes - what HAPPENED to Brooke Fraser??