Those flowers are Hollyhocks David. A favourite of my mother so seeing them brought back fond memories thank you. I’ve been reading all the material on Arise and reflecting on what it all means for me as a Christian. Initially anger and outrage of course but then wanting to move beyond the outrage, look what they have done, echo chamber. But I haven’t worked out how to do that yet. These things have to be called out and the people harmed acknowledged and supported as you are committed to doing. So it’s not just outrage it’s much deeper than that David. I see you as a healer,not in some messianic way, but rather by being quietly honest about your own journey. And so I love reading your blog and the other blogs you reference. I wonder if you have ever read Scott Pecks wonderful book People of the Lie. He also wrote the Road Less Travelled. People of the Lie is a brilliant exploration of how so called good people learn to represent themselves through living a lie just like our man Cameron. Beneath it is a terrible fear of failure. That’s what happens if you are silly enough to believe in hell. If you want to see the subtlety of it in action watch Luxon being interviewed on Maori TV text book people of the lie.
Anyway Kia kaha David I just want to affirm your work and thank you for it. When your posts ping in it uplifts my spirit for sure.
Thanks @Fionnaigh for what you have written and for the resources you have provided. And thanks @David Farrier for publishing this newsletter, it adds an excellent layer to the newsletters of the last few weeks.
Yes this article is important to this work being done and seen by so many people, credit X100.
l often joked that our group training in Mental Health bonded through group trauma, myself and my colleagues to each other. Everyone was from 'vastly different' walks of life but all wanted better lives inside mentally, for our families and community's future.
Not a big ask.
Our differences definitely got me thinking about that old freedom of religion could-should be able to exist with those whom want freedom from religion in Aotearoa? More in common than not.
Are we not all blind people touching different parts of the Elephant and saying this is, or is not God?
I can see a middle way where all exist together surely, how black and white, perceived as lukewarm does it have to be? Surely it's more complex but simple in it's desired outcomes.
I really like Bill Burr's journey through his religion, it seems like he is doing his therapy on stage(musician John Toogood is a great example as well), almost like really good group work where being vulnerable to those hidden dark places, shining a light on them with witnesses to take what they will and hopefully speak to it to him or themselves if they want in the present or the future.
Quite hopeful for a truly cynical man in this age.
Those flowers are Hollyhocks David. A favourite of my mother so seeing them brought back fond memories thank you. I’ve been reading all the material on Arise and reflecting on what it all means for me as a Christian. Initially anger and outrage of course but then wanting to move beyond the outrage, look what they have done, echo chamber. But I haven’t worked out how to do that yet. These things have to be called out and the people harmed acknowledged and supported as you are committed to doing. So it’s not just outrage it’s much deeper than that David. I see you as a healer,not in some messianic way, but rather by being quietly honest about your own journey. And so I love reading your blog and the other blogs you reference. I wonder if you have ever read Scott Pecks wonderful book People of the Lie. He also wrote the Road Less Travelled. People of the Lie is a brilliant exploration of how so called good people learn to represent themselves through living a lie just like our man Cameron. Beneath it is a terrible fear of failure. That’s what happens if you are silly enough to believe in hell. If you want to see the subtlety of it in action watch Luxon being interviewed on Maori TV text book people of the lie.
Anyway Kia kaha David I just want to affirm your work and thank you for it. When your posts ping in it uplifts my spirit for sure.
Thanks @Fionnaigh for what you have written and for the resources you have provided. And thanks @David Farrier for publishing this newsletter, it adds an excellent layer to the newsletters of the last few weeks.
Yes this article is important to this work being done and seen by so many people, credit X100.
l often joked that our group training in Mental Health bonded through group trauma, myself and my colleagues to each other. Everyone was from 'vastly different' walks of life but all wanted better lives inside mentally, for our families and community's future.
Not a big ask.
Our differences definitely got me thinking about that old freedom of religion could-should be able to exist with those whom want freedom from religion in Aotearoa? More in common than not.
Are we not all blind people touching different parts of the Elephant and saying this is, or is not God?
I can see a middle way where all exist together surely, how black and white, perceived as lukewarm does it have to be? Surely it's more complex but simple in it's desired outcomes.
I really like Bill Burr's journey through his religion, it seems like he is doing his therapy on stage(musician John Toogood is a great example as well), almost like really good group work where being vulnerable to those hidden dark places, shining a light on them with witnesses to take what they will and hopefully speak to it to him or themselves if they want in the present or the future.
Quite hopeful for a truly cynical man in this age.
https://youtu.be/krvVxzPXlcg