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Hello Webworm! Thanks for having me here again. This is one of my favourite places on the internet, and I’m happy to discuss anything that came up in my article (or any of the previous ones!)

I wanted to quickly pop a couple of caveats on the article because it’s hard to do in text when it’s already a bit much! The first is, when I say “crypto is fucked” or “Twitter is fucked” I don’t necessarily mean that they’re going to disappear tomorrow. That’d be a risky prediction! I wouldn’t be surprised if both lingered on for a good while yet. What I mean is that they are profoundly dysfunctional, and that the dysfunction is apparent to pretty much everyone, and they can’t easily be fixed - if they can be fixed at all.

The second big one is that I don’t think that Mastodon on its own is a cure-all - there is plenty there that’s problematic! - but I think that federated media might be the start of something much better for internet communication. I just think it’s so weird that we’re completely used to having massive companies spy on is, or that we outsource moderation to teams of contractors who get PTSD for a living. It’s so strange when you think about it! I really recommend the book I mentioned, Chokepoint Capitalism, because it goes into detail about the problems with how megacorps have captured huge swathes of culture and are squeezing creatives (the people who actually make things) for everything they have.

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Beautiful work.

The internet is a surreal, absurd, maddening hell hole, and I often think I should just leave it... But I can't. It's too fascinating. It's too unique. There's never been anything like it, good or bad.

I worry about what it's doing (and done) to my psyche. I recoil at the misinformation, alternative facts, and downright ignorance. And then I revel in the world's of knowledge and information, or marvel at the convenience and how much smaller the world feels.

I think the internet is awful... And our only hope. We are facing so many problems that are not just local, but affect the entire planet, and we need to work together as a species to fix it. And we've literally NEVER done that. It's not been possible... Until now. The only way we can fix this shit is with the global communication made possible the internet.

But only if we can stop shitposting, doom scrolling, and trolling each other in to oblivion.

It's fascinating (and more than a little horrifying) watching our strange species struggle with these existential problems as we go through the mother of all growing pains. We happen to be alive in what I think is the most interesting of times humans have ever seen.

Thanks to all the writers at Webworm for trying to provide some semblance of perspective in this insane pre apocalypse. It all helps.

I still differ with Josh on one thing though; I still have faith in blockchain tech. Crypto is often a cesspit of awful late stage capitalism, but I still think the technology holds a world of promise for the future... I guess we'll see.

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