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Lisa S.'s avatar

Watching all of this from Germany with an important election coming up soon. This support of far right groups by billionares is really frightening.

And while many people here are saying over and over that they can't believe how "the Americans" have elected this dangerous criminal again, I'm afraid that our election will come with another shock about high AfD results. Since I was a lot younger, people have said, that looking to the US predicts what will happen for us in a couple of years. Time has sped up a lot so it seams like we could be up for a nasty surprise here too. And we are no different here, when it comes to a lack of good ideas to turn this trend around and convince people, who are drifting to the right, to come back.

P.S. I haven't heard anyone in Germany denying that it was a Nazi salut.

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Joe G.'s avatar

That image of Elon's giant face at the AfD rally so resembles that old 1984 Apple commercial that I keep having to remind myself that it's real.

Elon will say he was only doing the Nazi salute "ironically", and then his supporters will also start doing it "ironically", and then it'll stop being ironic. You pretend for so long eventually you forget you're pretending. It's the end result of the "own the libs" mentality.

I think the mainstream media had it's brain fried by Trump's small popular vote win. They think because a lot of people believe whatever BS Trump and Elon are spewing, they have to engage with it seriously. Which is stupid. A belief isn't more or less valid because a lot of people believe it.

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